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You see the inner west and you think, well, this is just identity. This is culture. The side of Sydney that holds it together. Dense living, real neighborhood city. You're getting a lot of educated people moving into.
It's making me want to move to the inner west. The rental market's quite high. I think a lot of people don't want to move out of the inner west. People around my age that were going into those markets as their first property, like $2 million property in the inner west. I'm like, nice.
A lot of them are coming in from the eastern suburbs. You sell your unit in Coogee, but you've got a good opportunity to buy a freestanding home in the inner west. Cities are being developed around Sydney. The inner west is becoming almost the center. There's so much rising damp here.
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Ron, welcome to the show, mate. Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. Mate, it's a different flavor for today's episode. We're talking very niche, certain part of Sydney.
I like talking about this because many people who are listening to this show are either, or watching, are either A, in Sydney, and they want to maybe one day live in the area that we'll talk about today, or have property B that they have in this area and they want to think about. I always talk with Jack about this. We talk about portfolio plans when people are building their portfolios to get their wealth and passive income goals. A big part of it is something called consolidation. That requires them to sell property.
That requires them to downsize their family home. That requires them to think differently with their wealth because it's not just all about investing, but it's also about what they do with their home. Many of them live in the inner west of Sydney, or many of them know the inner west of Sydney or one day want to call it home. Let's start with your specialization there in the inner west and maybe with two things. Number one is tell us a bit about you, your journey, and the agency you're at.
Number two is maybe describing the inner west for someone who doesn't know it at all or maybe knows a little bit about it. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I will start by not boring everyone out. I'll give you a quick summary on myself. I'm a real estate agent across the inner west.
We serve the whole inner west collectively at our agency, which is called The Agency. A bit of background on me, I started in real estate over in the US. The world took me through basketball, which led me on to real estate in America across different cities and then moving back to Sydney and being in the number one real estate market in the world, in my opinion. As far as, I guess, kind of the inner west and the agency in the inner west, we sell over 200 properties a year. We do quite a large volume, over 1,000 on our rent roll across the inner west particularly.
My personal office is in Marrickville. It's shifting into a big sector of the inner west, but you asked me a little bit, what is the inner west for people who don't really understand it? There's a really quick way to summarize it. I think the eastern suburbs or the east in general, you see that and you think prestige. I think the lower north shore, the north shore, you see that and you think legacy or tradition.
I think you see the inner west and you think, well, this is just identity. This is culture. That's the side of Sydney that holds it together from a large standpoint of dense living, real neighborhood city. You've got everything you need in a city, in a neighborhood, in a suburb, in an area that encapsulates transport, food, cafes, restaurants, schools, gyms, bakeries, the whole lot. What that brings is a community and an energy that you don't normally see in other pockets outside of Sydney in a very compact scale and space.
Yeah, making me want to move to the inner west. It must be a sales move. I've got a lot more for you. That's a pretty cool way to just break down the different parts of Sydney and just help it. Jack, what was your take on, I guess, how you'd identify inner west as a part of Sydney?
Obviously, east, north, inner. I guess you summed it up right about being, it has a neighborhood feel to it, like parts of Newtown. I used to go to Newtown a lot because I went vegan for a couple of years in my early 20s. Here we go. I'm from Campbelltown, so I'm driving up there every other weekend.
There was another, like Glebe as well. I've always wanted to live there. Now it's a bit different. I've got kids and stuff, but I think you summed it up really well. The fact that it doesn't feel like a city, it kind of does feel like a neighborhood where it's a bit more friendly.
Yeah, a little bit urban in that sense, right? But it doesn't have necessarily a whole lot of, I guess, kind of a difference to the city except for the fact that you do have that community. You have that working professional neighborhood where you're getting a lot of educated people moving into. So you get that element of, yes, you can go to Newtown. Yes, you can go to Marrickville, and you can have almost like a suburb within the city that does exist and has infrastructure and transport while being so close.
It's about five to 10 Ks, obviously, west of the CBD, so depending on where you are. Do you think it's more renters than owner-occupiers in areas like that? I would say for units. I definitely think that the rental market's quite high. I think there is a lot of long-term residents across the inner west that are owner-occupiers.
I think a lot of people don't want to move out of the inner west once they move in. I think that's a common theme for the area. I was surprised when I got into the industry. I was surprised to see so many people around my age that were going into those markets as their first property. Yeah, a lot of them would get a bit of help from their parents, but a lot of them have just been saving up since they were 20, now 30, and they've got this big deposit.
They're just going to go massive, like $2 million property in the inner west. I'm like, nice. Yeah. Oh, man, in terms of lifestyle, it gives me some memories for sure. I was telling you guys just before, I used to manage a branch at CBA on Marrickville, on the one in Marrickville Road, also the one in Newtown and King Street, and then Surrey Hills on Crown Street.
One thing that I have just glued in my memory of what does inner west represent to me? Calories. Straight up calories. You love your bakeries, mate. Oh, man, the food, the restaurants, everything.
It's just like, I'm sorry if that's not the best way to describe it. Don't mean kilojoules? Kilojoules, yeah. Kilojoules, oh, man, that grinds my gears. Australia, cull kilojoules, change all your menus to calories, and you've got a happy arch.
But no, I'm definitely not the salesperson in the room because when I heard your beautiful, elaborate ways to understand what inner west is, and here's me just going, calories. But when it comes to more people buying and selling in the inner west, what type of backgrounds, careers, demographics, incomes, what do you kind of see when it comes to the buying and selling demographic there? There's been a big shift post-COVID, which I think is really relevant. It's a lot of buyers are coming in, young families. A lot of them are coming in from the eastern suburbs.
And a lot of that comes down to value reallocation, right? So you'll sell a property, call it your first home that you ended up buying with your help from your parents that's gone up in equity, a unit in Coogee, right? You sell your unit in Coogee, you've got a good opportunity, granted, obviously, depends on the unit, but you've got a good opportunity to buy a freestanding home in the inner west, right? Depending on where you want to go, right? There's factors to it, but a lot of that mentality of, well, let's start a family, let's live a little more dense, let's have this kind of schools, location, let's have that inner west feel, the calories, and let's go move into this neighborhood where we see value.
And so one major segment we have to bring up is the eastern suburbs crowd, lower north shore crowd as well that's been funneling in pretty heavily into the inner west. You do get a lot of downsizers as well. So I'd say young families and downsizers are a main thing. Obviously, with dense living, you get a lot of these semis that are two bedrooms, detached, you're getting a lot of confined spaces, which are low maintenance. And so for a lot of downsizers, it makes sense financially.
And then also from a standpoint of, well, let me get a lifestyle out of this too, right? So those are the two main markets I'm seeing. Well, me and Jack see this on the investment side a lot when we help clients, and this will help many investors out there really understand this other world that exists. Land size. So Jack, we often talk and investors just go, oh, we've won this big 500 square meter block, 600 square meter block.
I need to look out further in this city or that city. But then inner west and you trade that the moment you go think value, right? And it's a different definition, right? When you think land size there. Yeah, and I feel like that just shows a different way of looking at land and looking at what you get for it rather than just kind of having this hard rule around it.
And it's making me rethink as well how I look at investments a lot too. Like not in terms of my formula of what works and what data we look out for, but more of the what's acceptable and not acceptable when you think of land size as a filter. Just because I've seen and been tracking so many different sales and been seeing resale value and going, hey, that resale value percentage wise, even though this house wasn't renovated, it actually didn't get impacted as much as I thought. But when it comes to people who are getting sale ready and you have tips for them, because this is an area you know very well, right? Like selling your property, getting it ready for market.
Many investors watching this want to one day sell their properties, whether it be properties interstate or whether it be homes that they own in the inner west or anything like that. What are some of the tips that you have for sellers where you just go, speaking from the side of helping you, if you do these couple of things for me, it's not like you're doing your job for me, but it's more like you're definitely helping your chances to get a good sale fast and efficiently. I'll speak specific to the inner west. The number one thing you can do is reduce your buyer friction when it comes to their future objections. Buyers are educated in the inner west.
There's no getting around that, right? You're getting a lot of working professionals. Maybe they manage companies. Maybe they have businesses. They come from a background of doing extensive research, right?
A lot of the buyers who walk into open homes are going to have objections immediately for your property in the inner west. In a lot of cases, it's land size, right? In other cases, it's things you can't control like a flight path, right? But do whatever you can to minimize the objections that are expected to come up. Period homes is a big thing in the inner west, right?
You get a lot of Victorian houses, Federation houses. You want to make sure your building and pest report checks out. You want to make sure that if you can, put in windows at a double glaze. Again, if you're on a flight path, right? Little things like that that are going to be able to put up a fight against the buyer objection because it is so frequent in the inner west when it comes to buyers.
Yeah, it's almost like know what you're going to have as a thing that comes up early and then handle that beforehand. Exactly. Cool. Awesome. Obviously, there's a lot of little things that you can do, right?
I think maximizing space is just a logical assumption, right? If you've got a two by two living room, right? You don't want to put the world's biggest couch in it, right? It's just not going to be good in terms of styling and staging it. You want to be a bit smarter.
Don't do what I did during COVID. As soon as COVID hit, I was in a small apartment and I was just like, damn, we're really locked up here. What should we do? I've got this little window we can walk out and go for a walk and pick up stuff, essentials. JB Hi-Fi is, I think, sat under that essentials list or something.
I'm not sure. It was definitely open. I picked up, this is my first time getting into Netflix and stuff because I was like anti-TV everything before 2020, just full on focus. Still am, but like TV just now was like, I better get something. I got an 80-inch TV or 100-inch TV and the 100-inch TV was as far as Jack and I am on this table from the couch.
I would have been like the worst person for an inner-west sale campaign if you're trying to make it look sizable. It's those markets where you need like the 27-inch on the wall frame TV or 30-something. It looks just enough to go, I've got my TV, but look at how far it is from the couch. I get you, those little things in space definitely make a big difference. Yeah, 100%.
For an investor selling their place, I think it's equally as important, but one thing that I would love to point out is a lot of buildings, especially if you're selling a unit, you want to make sure the strata report's clean. I think that that's a big thing that a lot of people ask the question about. They say, there's a big levy coming up, right? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to just read that and notice that and then you're in a tough situation in your sales campaign if you're addressing it halfway through. I sold a unit that had strata issues and some of the things you mentioned about pre-empting what a buyer's going to say to you, the agents that do it really well and they just have all the answers, it's very important.
The agent that I worked with asked me a million questions before it even went to market because he knew that I just want to be able to answer everything up front and not have to like, I don't want to hide anything. We literally gave everyone a strata report and told them this is what's happening. It was a significant special levies. We sold it for cheap, but it wasn't easy. We sold it for 100K less than what I bought it for 10 years ago, but it was still a tough sell.
Because we were transparent, because the agent done really well. Shout out Douglas, you're the man. Shout out to Douglas. Honestly, it helped a lot. He just was fully transparent and we managed to get it over the line.
Obviously, there's a lot of little things that you can do. I think maximizing space is just a logical assumption. If you've got a two by two living room, you don't want to put the world's biggest couch in it. It's just not going to be good in terms of styling and staging it. You want to be a bit smarter.
Don't do what I did during COVID. As soon as COVID hit, I was in a small apartment and I was just like, damn, we're really locked up here. What should we do? I've got this little window we can walk out and go for a walk and pick up stuff, essentials. JB Hi-Fi is, I think, sat under that essentials list or something.
I'm not sure. It was definitely open. This is my first time getting into Netflix and stuff because I was anti-TV everything before 2020, just full on focus. Still am, but TV just now was like, I better get something. I got an 80-inch TV or 100-inch TV.
The 100-inch TV was as far as Jack and I am on this table from the couch. I would have been the worst person for an inner-west sale campaign if you're trying to make it look sizable. It's those markets where you need the 27-inch on the wall frame TV or 30-something. It looks just enough to go, I've got my TV, but look at how far it is from the couch. I get you, those little things in space definitely make a big difference.
100%. For an investor selling their place, I think it's equally as important, but one thing that I would love to point out is a lot of buildings, especially if you're selling a unit, you want to make sure the strata report's clean. I think that that's a big thing that a lot of people ask the question about. They say, there's a big levy coming up. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to just read that and notice that, and then you're in a tough situation in your sales campaign if you're addressing it halfway through.
I sold a unit that had strata issues, and some of the things you mentioned about pre-empting what a buyer's going to say to you, the agents that do it really well, and they just have all the answers, it's very important. The agent that I worked with asked me a million questions before it even went to market because he knew that I just want to be able to answer everything up front and not have to like, I don't want to hide anything. We literally gave them, everyone, a strata report and told them this is what's happening. It was a significant special levies. We sold it for cheap, but it wasn't easy.
We sold it for 100K less than what I bought it for 10 years ago, but it was still a tough sell. Because we were transparent, because the agent done really well. Shout out Douglas, you're the man. Shout out to Douglas. Honestly, it helped a lot.
He just was fully transparent and we managed to get it over the line. When it comes to selling property in the inner west, you would have seen some pretty interesting or unique transactions. Do you have any cool stories to share around maybe it'd be reasons to sell or maybe it'd be the transaction and how it flowed through itself? Has there been any interesting or unique stories that are classic inner west, unique things come up when it comes to the stuff that you worked on? There's so many, I guess, kind of phrases that buyers will say and that really encapsulates the inner west.
There's a quick one and there was one that was a buyer walking through the home. One was from the east, the other one was from Newtown. It was a house in Petersham and the buyer's walking through and the eastern suburbs guy goes, there's so much rising damp here. It's everywhere in the inner west. What's this rising damp?
I can't stand it. This house has rising damp. The Newtown guy goes, welcome to the inner west. It's like you're going to get this on every house.